Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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  • Published: 08 September 2019
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    This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!

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    Credits:
    Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
    Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
    Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
    Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

    Sources:
    https://www.nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
    https://www.nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
    http://www.schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
    https://www.sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
    https://sci-hub.tw/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
    https://www.indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/
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Comments • 9 431

  • Nuclear Geek
    Nuclear Geek  12 minutes back

    It all exists in his mind is kind of an overplayed theory/conspiracy. It really takes away from the films when people say that without it being clearly established.

    • ApplexGang _420
      ApplexGang _420  28 minutes back

      Joker calls a hit (or does it himself)on the wayne's creating batman...but in creating batman he furthers jokers delusions of heroism...i bet

      • Daniel Avalos
        Daniel Avalos  36 minutes back

        There no way you saw that movie Joker is coming october 4

        • Anthony Ricci
          Anthony Ricci  43 minutes back

          What is the movie at 2:22??

          • Aaron man
            Aaron man  43 minutes back

            Nobody fucking cares.

            • Daniel Avalos
              Daniel Avalos  43 minutes back

              Why do you spoil the movie your nothing

              • qwerty
                qwerty  59 minutes back

                Sorry, I had to...

                2:19 *DUBS CHECK EM*

                • Zak the PENGUIN
                  Zak the PENGUIN  1 hours back

                  personally i think that the new joker will be lame. Only because they keep changing his back story of how he became joker. Yes, he was a failed comedian, but he also fell into a vid of chemicals, which bleached his skin and turned his hair green. The makeup seems “clown” and less Joker. If you get what im saying. He never actually put on makeup except for lipstick. But thats my opinion.😐

                  • Game Show Channel
                    Game Show Channel  1 hours back

                    why do people hate so much THEORYS ?? keep doing those theorys mat we love your work :)

                    • Sergio Barajas
                      Sergio Barajas  1 hours back

                      we live in a society

                      • Ala Kala
                        Ala Kala  2 hours back

                        Maybe he’s the 3rd or 2nd joker

                        • Aaron White
                          Aaron White  2 hours back

                          I can't wait until the film comes out just to prove you wrong..

                          • Thexbox1gamerYT
                            Thexbox1gamerYT  2 hours back

                            I think this is gonna be the 2nd joker of the 3 joker theory

                            • Inter lude
                              Inter lude  2 hours back

                              I don’t know Pat he seems like a normal guy to me.

                              • Bruce Dunham
                                Bruce Dunham  2 hours back

                                Wasn't Arthur Fleck the guy in B:TAS who cut off Joker in his car and then was forced to go into hiding to avoid the Joker?

                                • max frank labuschagne
                                  max frank labuschagne  3 hours back

                                  maybe the real joker is the friends we made along the way

                                  • AdamDaLEGEND
                                    AdamDaLEGEND  3 hours back

                                    Check out my OWN JOKER Trailer!




                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8

                                    • AdamDaLEGEND
                                      AdamDaLEGEND  3 hours back

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Hyo8lESN8

                                      • Ooga Booga
                                        Ooga Booga  3 hours back

                                        I think that it's gonna be him telling Batman his "origin" and it's gonna end like Killing Joke (with Batman killing him or least it looks like he does from the shadows) I think that would be very interesting

                                        • Eryazo Eri
                                          Eryazo Eri  3 hours back

                                          Just remember, not even the joker knows what his own origin story is

                                          • Nico Bones
                                            Nico Bones  3 hours back

                                            MatPat, this is a great theory! But, let's take your theory to the next level.

                                            It's been established in Batman comics, movies, and video games that the Joker doesn't actually KNOW his true past. In the Dark Knight he tells multiple versions of how he "got these scars." In the comics he talked about how he liked his past to be multiple choice. In the cartoons, he manipulated Harley Quinn by telling her a horrible life story, which was contrary to what he'd previously told Batman.

                                            What if the movie is a story the Joker is telling to manipulate someone, and we're not sure how much he's lying about, how much he believes, and how much really happened.

                                            Take it one step further, the woman who appears to be his mother is actually his wife. In multiple Joker backstories he mentions his wife and how it had something to do with her care that he went insane. So, imagine this, as a schizophrenic with delusions he comes to believe his aged wife (whom you commented looked particularly young and healthy) is actually his mother, because it feels better to him to have an aged, sick mother than an aged, sick wife. His attempted affair with the other woman leads to his "mother," who was really his wife to either try to kill him or kill herself.

                                            Thus tying in with the fact that the Joker's stories often focus around his father killing his mother. Because he was the one who killed either his mother or his wife when he became like his father. It was easier to accept the idea that his father did it and he was the victim than live with what he'd done.

                                            • Darren Frey
                                              Darren Frey  3 hours back

                                              You know, the more I think about it, even though the Joker was created by Society, I wouldn't be surprised at all if at the end or near the end he still falls in the chemicals. The character doesn't strike me as somebody that would purposely dye their hair green.

                                              • Froy Oropeza
                                                Froy Oropeza  4 hours back

                                                Then why would the movie be called the joker


                                                Bruh

                                                • hellobubble
                                                  hellobubble  4 hours back

                                                  okay but like, I really kinda liked Suicide Squad Joker. While they did kinda remove the iconic elements of the character, it was a fresh look on a character we have all seen a thousand times. I wasn't looking for him to remain as the new look for every joker for the rest of joker's existence, but I really enjoyed him in that environment and would have loved to see that again.

                                                  • Da Stormcomin
                                                    Da Stormcomin  4 hours back

                                                    Great video!!!. I hope ur wrong cause that could suck. I already think the movie will be slow and dry.

                                                    • stealistic gaming101
                                                      stealistic gaming101  4 hours back

                                                      15:00 mapat every time he does a fnaf theory

                                                      • Crystal Jefferson
                                                        Crystal Jefferson  4 hours back

                                                        Literally got an ad for this movie lmao 😂.l

                                                        • Toastiannn
                                                          Toastiannn  4 hours back

                                                          Hey thanks for spoiling Fight Club

                                                          • dragonite 1352
                                                            dragonite 1352  5 hours back

                                                            I sall the joker ad in this video

                                                            • Al
                                                              Al  5 hours back

                                                              3:46 he holds the pen with his right hand... but then next shot the pen is in his left hand? I bet the actor is right-handed and they made him write with a left hand to give that funny/creepy handwriting

                                                              • John Duckworth
                                                                John Duckworth  5 hours back

                                                                So basically this entire movie could be one big joke told by the joker sitting with his psychiatrist in Arkham? I'm okay with that.

                                                                • Unwanted Bookclub
                                                                  Unwanted Bookclub  5 hours back

                                                                  I had a feeling it was something similar to this. Love the idea behind it even though I haven't watched it. Pheonix probably killed that role. #walkthatline

                                                                  • Budgie McLeod
                                                                    Budgie McLeod  5 hours back

                                                                    Is anyone else feeling dumber for having watched this?

                                                                    • Olivia Stoltenberg
                                                                      Olivia Stoltenberg  6 hours back

                                                                      I got a joker trailer before this

                                                                      • Monster Freedom
                                                                        Monster Freedom  6 hours back

                                                                        dont diss shutter island matt i had to write a detailed essay on it last year

                                                                        • nuggeth
                                                                          nuggeth  6 hours back

                                                                          6:07 voice crack

                                                                          • Marianna Calamar
                                                                            Marianna Calamar  6 hours back

                                                                            Matpat: batnipples
                                                                            Me: NAMTIDDIES



                                                                            ARMYs shall get this

                                                                            • blessed_withacurse
                                                                              blessed_withacurse  6 hours back

                                                                              I've been a fan of your channel and videos for so long... but you ruined it now . You said this is spoiler free but the last line with the review comment is a spoiler in my opinion ... thumbs down buddy thumbs down...

                                                                            • Jo Jo
                                                                              Jo Jo  6 hours back

                                                                              I got a ad for the new joker! XD

                                                                              • C Eastep
                                                                                C Eastep  6 hours back

                                                                                you haven't even seen the fuckin movie yet

                                                                                • Shadow snake
                                                                                  Shadow snake  6 hours back

                                                                                  Joker has also been known as John doe, but only in telltale batman.

                                                                                  • Sookie Siamese
                                                                                    Sookie Siamese  7 hours back

                                                                                    I got a joker add in this video

                                                                                    • Daniel Nunya Bidnezz
                                                                                      Daniel Nunya Bidnezz  7 hours back

                                                                                      Looks like this is going to be a 90's Catwoman again.

                                                                                      Meh.

                                                                                      • CapitaineMontreal
                                                                                        CapitaineMontreal  7 hours back

                                                                                        I think I must be Schizophrenic... My handwriting is worst than what we see in those trailers..

                                                                                        • JK
                                                                                          JK  7 hours back

                                                                                          0:41 I smell like beeefff

                                                                                          • ColorQueen_ 64
                                                                                            ColorQueen_ 64  7 hours back

                                                                                            Omg right when Matpat started taking about the trailer it played 🤔 illuminati?

                                                                                            • Aidan Elder
                                                                                              Aidan Elder  7 hours back

                                                                                              Film Theory: PROOF that the JOKER is a COMMUNIST??!!

                                                                                              • Kyliegh Vernon
                                                                                                Kyliegh Vernon  7 hours back

                                                                                                MatPat knows too much